continued — This request, if agreed to by the planning board, would create more work, greater costs and more delays for the already four-year-old VSM development project.
Background
The VSM “Victory Campus” development project, as described in the most current project narrative, will be set on 99.5 acres of land off Route 20 less than a mile east of the village. It will include a 61,000 square foot medical and research facility; a 171,000 square foot indoor recreational, athletic and rehabilitation facility; and a dozen outdoor multi-use and baseball/softball fields, four of which will be artificial turf and the rest natural grass.
The project is scheduled to be built in two phases, with the medical building and four adjacent multi-use fields to be completed in phase 1, and the remaining eight outdoor fields to the south of the medical building to be done in phase two. The intended uses for both the indoor and outdoor athletic facilities are stated to be for team practices, games, tournaments, coaching clinics, injury prevention programs and wellness and exercise programs. They will be utilized by the VSM medical practice, as well as by youth, high school, college and professional athletes and teams, and local community members.
Victory Sports requested an extension of Town Water District No. 1 (later changed to Water District No. 2) to its proposed land development location in August 2011. A water district report by RZ Engineering, commission by Victory Sports Enterprises, stated the proposed development would include a 5,000 square-foot medical office and a 10,000 square-foot indoor athletic field building, with an anticipated water demand of 6,800 gallons per day (gpd) and a peak water demand of 20 gallons per minute (gpm). Designed fire flow capacity would be 3,600 gpm.
The village board approved the extension at its Dec. 8 meeting, seeing no adverse impacts to the village water system, but with the condition that VSM create its own fire protection system since the village water system could not supply the stated fire flow capacity needed for the development.
Comments
if 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Take a close lock at RZ Engineering calculations done by hand on grid paper. 50,000 SF is used for Med office, not 5,000sf. Typical Med Office uses .1 gallons per day per SF. This equates to 5,000 gallons per day. Now building is 61,000sf so math comes to 6,100 gallons per day.
Askwhythis 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Typical Medical office does not include Urgent Care and 4 operating rooms... not to mention the other uses... cafe for 40 persons, and 300 person banquet hall.
skangirl 5 months, 2 weeks ago
"Typical Med Office" also doesn't have a fitness center with shower facilities.
if 5 months, 2 weeks ago
It is true many Medical Office Buildings do not contain those items. That is not my point. My point is that it is critical to use the correct multiplier of 0.1 gallons per day per square foot in your calculations. American Society for Healthcare Engineering has done extensive studies on water usage and use a factor of 0.1 gallons per day per square foot. Just think about what the Bob Lotkowitz has stated "26,000 gpd at a demand rate of 144gpm". Assuming the medical office building is operated 7 days a week yields an annual amount of 365x26,000=9,490,000 gallons per year. Now go ask the Village Water Department how many gallons of water they sell to all water customers in a year. Some facts: Mirbeau Lodge used 912,500 gallons/yr; Country Club 1,533,000 gallons/yr; Welch Allyn 1,560,375 gallons per year. I don't believe a 61,000 sf medical office building will use twice as much water as those three facilities combined.
Askwhythis 5 months, 2 weeks ago
Yes.. if there was ONLY a 61,000 sf medical facility But it is so much more...the study and calculations must include the entire facility at its intended use and at peak worse case condition.
So use the 0.1 gpd (or as higher - 0.6 in some references) for the 61,000 medical facility Now add the 171,000 sq ft rec center at the 0.18 gpd factor (or less if you like)
and for now we won't even include the landscaping factors because the study didn't either. Total = ?? It is high. (and in the Sanitary Sewer study... the facility discharges twice the water ii intakes?)
The point is .....
the water study / report by the applicant doesn't address the entire facility and its intended use. .... neither did the Sanitary Sewer study..... or for that matter the Traffic study.
if 5 months, 2 weeks ago
It is not accurate to multiply the Field House/Indoor Field by the same factor of.1gpd/sf as that multiplier is for Medical Offices. The proper way to calculate the amount of water used in the Field House is to count toilets and sinks and other water fixtures and project a daily usage. It may be of value to ask Ultimate Goal how much water they use in a year.
Not sure how much water they will be purchasing from the Village for Landscaping uses. VSM would have to submit an irrigation plan showing sprinkler and pumps for one to calculate usage. Usually the vendor selling the sprinkler/irrigation system can provide the daily quantity used.
Do you really believe the VSM facility will use over six times as as much water than Welch Allyn? Don't they have close to 1,000 people working out there? I think they have close to 1,800 parking spaces.
You are correct, an updated and accurate water calculation needs to be completed and all previous studies should be discarded. Until then let's not use exaggerated numbers - please play fair.
Askwhythis 5 months, 2 weeks ago
Agreed we need real numbers.
And yes counting fixtures is one way to determine water use... there are factors generated as well based on actual facilities, including recreational facilities.
Might be worth calling United Sports in Downingtown PA, or Copperstown Field or Dreams, or a couple of golf courses to see how much water they use.
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